Nien996 Serious Topic Discussion #1

[Nien996]

I just came up with this idea to help bring some sanity into these unorderly forums. lol j/k. But, never the less, I would actually like to see a discussions on some serious issues. That's why I'd like to start a little discussion thread every week. I seriously would like to see some good opinions expressed here. Ok, introductions finished, let's get cracking on the first topic ......

Domestic Abuse:
We all know that domestic abuse exists out there in the world we live in. Day in and day out there are hundreds if not thousands of these cases reported each day. Now the question I come to ask is, How would one most effectively deal with such a problem in their own homes? I mean, options are generally few for such a person, but are there really good options to help a person out? Also, what do you do if it's a friend that you know? or worse, what if it happened to you?

[Tall]

That's a great idea. We need more threads like this. ;)

Domestic abuse can't be stopped, there will always be the fair share of weirdos and sickos in this world. But it can be lessened, or prevented in some cases. Judging on a one person perspective, there really isn't any sure-fire approach in my opinion. If you go directly to the police they can only offer limited help. They can't stay with you 24/7, and they always need proof, which isn't always available. Going to the police can also worsen the situation if the abuser finds out. Running away is another approach, but you'll have to start a new life, new idendity, and hope your abuser won't follow you...It's a tough issue, and I don't think there will ever really be a good solution...

[QuizMaster]

Hey, is this clown making fun of the Gamer's Gateway?

If people wanted to make "serious" threads, they'd do so. This is the Gamer's Gateway, not the No-fun-evil Rusty Gateway. Except for Loop, all hail his evil!

[Night_Cralwer]

agree's wit tall

[Blondi]

I would like to jump in on this one....Good Topic...

Too Real and Too now.....

I was a victum, years ago and then again in September or October, I can't really remember... My ex was physically and mentally abusive to me.....I ran away.....

He came back into the picture again and out of the blue came over to my house when my brother (who is a cop) was not home...He beat the crap out of me....Broke ribs, black eye, most of you know this.....Anyhow....I got a restraing order out on him and some friends of my brothers (also cops) stayed in my home for what seemed forever.....Other cops were trying to find him...but of course they did not.....

Only thing funny about all of this was I got escorted everywhere I went, even work, by cops.... I really dont belive there is anyplace that you can hide forever.....:wtf:

[ducon]

I never was a direct victim of abused. But I did have a lot of it in my family. My dad would beat my mom. But I didn’t see it because I was only 2 or so. I can say that I will never be like that. I’ve seen it and what it can do to much to do it myself. I would do anything to keep my family (that I hope I have some day). From seeing or being a part of it.

[Drowsy Baku-ou]

The only solution I can come up with (and it's been said), because I really can't guess at how I'd react just from observation, because I've never had one of these experiences..

.. Would probably be to run away.
Hiding amongst friends seems to be something that could tie the loose end, but it wouldn't stay tied forever.. even with a new identity.

Depends on the abuser too, I guess.

[cj7nut]

I believe in "eye for an eye", cops should beat the living hell out of those who are convicted for these sort of crimes! That MIGHT detour some abusive people. The sad thing is, there is no LEGAL way to stop these sort of crimes from happening in the first place.:mad: Thankfully laws against this sort of thing have deminished the number of occurrences, but not stopped them completely. The laws against this have only been in the US for about fifty years or so, before that a MAN could do whatever he pleased to his wife & children.:mad: In "Muslem" countries, a man is STILL able to do whatever he wants to his family.

LETS FACE IT.....MOST PEOPLE ARE JUST F***ED IN THE HEAD!:(

BTW: nice topic;)

[Tall]

Originally posted by QuizMaster
Hey, is this clown making fun of the Gamer's Gateway?

If people wanted to make "serious" threads, they'd do so. This is the Gamer's Gateway, not the No-fun-evil Rusty Gateway. Except for Loop, all hail his evil!

I thought you'd be one to like this kind of topic! C'mon Quiz, live up to your name! :tounge: :D

[Nien996]

Well, first off I apoligize to anyone I offended, even though that wasn't what I intended. I just didn't really see any down to earth serious threads so I decided that maybe this would be a good idea.

Now, since this is my thread, I'll add to this. In my home there was domestic abuse. My father would beat up on my mom. One night it got rather bad and well, they divorced and I live with my mom now. The look in my father's eyes though, it looked more like he enjoyed it than rage. I won't ever really forget what happened, but I'm glad I won't be around to see it anymore.

It seem though, that it happens around us when we don't really notice it. Just recently one of my best friends who is a girl told me that her boyfriend has been screaming at her. Though he hasn't harmed her physically, I can already tell she's being affected mentally. It just pisses me off that there are so many people out there that do this to others. I am now 19. I have a younger sister who is 16. I told myself that I would watch over her from d!ckheads. Heh, and I know I can back that up ::flexing biceps and triceps:: So, I'll guess I'll end that here.

[QuizMaster]

Yes, the general idea I am having here is that people are messed up, unless I have the wrong idea. However, we cannot solve it because selective breeding and punishing people through testing their chromosomes is just wrong. On the contrary, that is the only answer.

[cj7nut]

Hey Nine996, this site does need more serious topics like this. The majority of threads here are USELESS trash talking.:rolleyes:

Anyways: keep the realistic treads coming. It NEVER hurts people to think about life out side their own homes!;)

[MA-121]

Yes I agree we need more topics like this but believe it or not we also need those certain mindless topics as well, ya know, just to spice things up. If all we had were threads like this, GG just wouldn't be as interesting, see?

I honestly have no idea how one would effectively deal with such a situation when it is occuring in their own homes. I don't live in a situation like that and I most certainly don't intend to. But I believe those that do are too scared to report it, for fear of someone getting revenge? Could be.

IMO the best option is just to get some research on the subject. No I don't mean right a paper or anything, but like find out some information on the problem and the options that work the most. I would say that gathering up the courage to report such a thing would be a considerable option, but you know how it goes, easier said than done.

If it happened to a friend I would try to help them out to the best of my ability, and more. True I would have the urge to lash out at whoever was responsible for hurting my friend but I know that would not help a damn thing. I definitely would not take matters into my own hands, that would probably make my friend feel like a coward, which is the one thing they should not be feeling.
If it happened to me, I believe that like I said I would search for some info on the problem and see what are the best ways to fix it.

But that's how I feel anyways...

[Air]

I think anyone who believes violence is an answer should be locked up.:mad:

[kaldor]

I am a victim of it still (my mothers 'boyfreind'), but only verbal abuse. I spend most of my spare time out; at work or at a freinds.
BUT, i have found the most effective way of dealing with it :D I give that verbal abuse right back, two fold, twice. And cause i am more intelligent than he will ever be, i can piss him off and it makes me feel better. He is one of the five people in this world i hate.

[QuizMaster]

Originally posted by Air
I think anyone who believes violence is an answer should be locked up.:mad:

I disagree. Sure, there are petty fights, and fights that really matter. Sometimes, all people can do is get violent for their rights.

[Krome]

I used to get smacked around all the time when I was a kid, that is until I turned fifteen and got bigger then my parents.

But becuse I got hit alot at home I used to get into alot of fights at school. But I grew up and am more apt to solve problems with words insteed of fists.;)

Good topic.:)

[cj7nut]

Yeah...most problems can be resolved by talking it out, but like Quiz said...sometimes you just have to fight for your right!

[Krome]

Originally posted by cj7nut
...sometimes you just have to fight for your right!

Agreed.;)

[MA-121]

I think anyone who believes violence is an answer should be locked up.
That's not a fair statement. Sometimes a person has got no other choice, talking doesn't work all the time in case you haven't noticed.

[Nien996]

Once again I apoligize to those who find this thread offensive, but I've been here before under a different alias not to long ago so I do know the mindless rambling going on here, and I enjoy it, heh. I just thought that a thread like this would be interesting because A) We see other people's opinions on such things and B) We might also help people who might need answers to tough times their going through....... Sheesh.

Now, with violence..... true there are some situations where the only option is using force for life and death situations. I just flat out hate using force because I'm only 19 and I've been through so many fights now that I can't even remember what they were about. That's my personal stand on this.

[MA-121]

Why do you keep saying sorry? No one is offended by what you have said and if they are that's their damn problem.:rolleyes: We need more topics like this, and they need to keep on going. Moving along...

[QuizMaster]

Fights........I guess the only acceptable fights are ones where your opponent hurts you too, like boxing.