Pokemon Ideas

[Sephiroth_Blade]

Now, I hope all of you are mature and don't say, "You still like Pokemon? Your gay!!!" But does anyone have any idea's on how to make the games better?

I think:

1.By having a certain # of badges, you should be able to run from trainers less...skilled... than you are.

2.The ability to take over Pokemon from one file to the next. Like, if I want to keep my Lugia after I start a new game, I want to keep my Lugia dammit!

3.Faster walking or bikes.

4.The option to have more than ONE file.

5.Make a freakin 3D game on GameCube already!

About that, I have had an idea for quite some time now, it goes like this:

A 3d Pokemon game where you can go to Kanto, Johto, AND Hoenn.

Zelda like camera angles.

Pokemon Stadium like battles.

All 350 Pokemon. If they could fit 251 trophies, 24 charecters, and more than 100 game modes and stages combined on one disc for SSBM, they can do at least THAT.

Get rid of the, "love the world and everything in it" thing.

The ablity to breed pokemon.

What do you Think?

[Sman25000]

yes, this is a very very good idea. nintendo has been needing this for like EVER.

1. yes a 3-d game, and get rid of loving and stuff and it'd be all good.

2. i don't want to play as ash. maybe you could pick between a few different characters, but then have a couple of angry lookin guys but still aren't evil.

3 they should make the bigger pokemon big and mean, and then the littler they are the nicer they look to show how evolution really would work.

[QuizMaster]

2.The ability to take over Pokemon from one file to the next. Like, if I want to keep my Lugia after I start a new game, I want to keep my Lugia dammit!

Pokemon Stadium like battles.

All 350 Pokemon. If they could fit 251 trophies, 24 charecters, and more than 100 game modes and stages combined on one disc for SSBM, they can do at least THAT.

2. All games are like that. Name one game that is the first time you play it affects the 2nd time (not including difficulty). I can only think of Wind Waker.

Pokemon Stadium like battles? :head: How were they any different from the GB games?

There are not more than 100 game modes and levels in SSMB.... well.... if you include each of those challenges, then maybe....

[Sman25000]

they are different from the gb games because its 3-d. OH, we also need to be able to make more then one game file on a game, I can't count how many times i've wanted to keep my old data from a game and start a new one, but couldn't because you can't have more than one game file of the same thing.

[QuizMaster]

Who cares if they [Pokémon Stadium battles] were 3-D? They were still exactly the same. I expected the ability to move one's Pokémon.

[Loop]

Surprisingly, this is a new thread.

Anyway, Pokmon can already be bred, and a faster bike and the ability to run were added in Pokon Ruby/Sapphire.

I'd like a 3D GC game, too. And perhaps being able to choose an evil-looking character.

[Sman25000]

oooo quiz that would be soooo awesome to be able to control your pokemon, you already can, but like you said make them move and stuff.

[QuizMaster]

Well, that is what I thought it would be like before Pokémon Stadium came out!

Like, you have an over-court view like in Mario Tennis, you control one at a time, attacks (Slash, Quick Attack, etc) are free but special attacks cost PP (of course).

[Sephiroth_Blade]

Great idea, Quiz. I mean, I've benn playing PS:2 for about a week now, and I think that they could have done a little bit better job of the battle system. Pokemon Colusseium better not be like that.

[Sman25000]

don't worry it will be.

[Loop]

Indeed - Why mess with the traditional RPG battle format?
It's all tactics, not who can move a d-pad faster.

[Sman25000]

that wouldn't be so much, but i think it would be cool to search for like weak points on pokemon, like if you catch them, you find out their weak point, unless, you happen to guess correctly then it might do more damage.

[QuizMaster]

Want to know what I really was confused about in Pokémon Stadium? Well, when we rented it, my brother was too cheap to get the GB-N64 transfer, so we used rental Pokémon.

Why is it that most of them have electric attacks? Even the water ones do.

[Loop]

that wouldn't be so much, but i think it would be cool to search for like weak points on pokemon, like if you catch them, you find out their weak point, unless, you happen to guess correctly then it might do more damage.

They already have them,. It's called elemental types.
Fire gets hurt twice as much by water, grass hurt twice as bad by fire, electricity pummels water and flying-types (so woe betide Gyarados, 'specially with Raichu holding a Magnet using Thunder)...

As for the electric attacks... maybe it's another plug for the electric rat, Pikachu? Everyone has his attacks, so why not use him anyway?

[Son Goku]

Getting ninty to throw out the idea of gaining badges just so you can control your pokemon would please me esp as you are always levelling up for the elite four (some1 please get them to invent a good name for that group) and no more pants pokemon like slobro etc they are not really worth peoples time unless the have to complete their pokedex.

[Sman25000]

You guys know what would be even better? an online one, where there would be real trainers walking around and then you could go and challenge them, and they can decline, so no running from battles isn't necessary. and you can face them more then once so you can keep on leveling up the Fast way, because the most annoying part of the game is not having any trainers to beat on when you have low experience and need experience.

[Loop]

Again, remedied in Ruby/Sapphire.

[Sman25000]

well, still, an online one would be cool.

[Loop]

'Course it would be. So would proper combat. So would not having to play as an obviously-homosexual character.

But that's what makes Pokémon Pokémon. That's what makes all RPGs RPGs.

[Sephiroth_Blade]

Both of you are right. But like I saaid before, "after you get a certain # of badges, you can run from trainers."

I'm getting tired of constantly being 2 steps away from a trainer in Silver.

[neo-geo]

Whatever they do, they HAVE TO get better grafics.
3D or something.

And ALL the pokemen should be available.

Ruby is better, but the grafics still smell.

[Sman25000]

Yeah, i'm really starting to get sick of the bird's eye view.

[Loop]

Whatever they do, they HAVE TO get better grafics.
3D or something.
And ALL the pokemen should be available.
Ruby is better, but the grafics still smell.

Graphics arent everything, and they WILL all be available when Pokémon Coliseum comes out o the GC. Apparently, you can 'rescue' all the ones you can't catch, though what Mewtwo needs rescuing from I haven't a clue.

[neo-geo]

From ME of course!
When I catch 'im I'll Whip 'is ass!
Oh, wait. That's before isn't it. Hmm.

Oh, and eh, I think you just about have to have a bird's eye.
GBA isn't strong enough, ya see.

[Sman25000]

Yeah, but if they made it on Gamecube it'd be different. Thats kind of what I was aiming for.

[Rhydon076]

Yeah, you should have more than one file. On Silver I'm a Master with Mew and I beat Red years ago, but I need another file to start a new game and save on. I've got Gold, yeah, but I don't wanna start another on that, either. :(

BTW, I got Sapphire too, but I think Silver is a lot better. (except 4 the PC.)

[GreenEyez]

Oh man you brought back fond memories i used to collect,play,trade,sell,buy Poke'mon man those where good times.I used to be the best at it man i could get the best cards for good deals never got ripped off.But the games are kind of boring.

[bee_happy]

*cough* big head *cough*

I reckon you should be able to get all the Pokemon on Sapphire and Ruby. It sucks that you can't get all the legendary's.

Oh and about the graphics, you should see them on Blue, red and Yellow now THAT was bad.

[Sman25000]

your not kiddin. The games are really fun at first, but then as you go on its boring and more boring, until you can stand it no longer.

[Loop]

And Pokémon kicks ass, I just play them too well and too fast for my own good.

[Sman25000]

The only way i could ever beat this game without losing my attention is if i ended up with level 30 guys at the end, and i got extremely lucky at the battles before.

[bee_happy]

I remember once on Red, my pokemon were @ level 20 odd and I was fighting Blaine, who's Pokemon are at level 30-40 :rolleyes: I think...

[QuizMaster]

Blaine.....Blaine.....trying to put the name with a face.

I believe you are mistaken.... unless Blaine was your enemy.

[Sman25000]

Blaine is the fire gym, hes hard to fight with the pokemon that i had, the most annoying one was the plant gym because all that woman made her pokemon do was bind and restrict and never let me go.

[bee_happy]

Yeah, that gets annoying.

[Sman25000]

I think that the bind attack type things should be taken out of the games, because all they do is stretch the battle out too long.

[QuizMaster]

Not only that but also because it is cheap!

[Loop]

And Constrict. AFAIK they're exactly the same thing, right down to the amount of damage and PP.

[bee_happy]

Yeah, though they only stop you from attacking in Red, Ble and Yellow. In the rest, they just do damage at the end of your turn.

[Sman25000]

oh, well then thats cool. As long as it isn't the other way.

[bee_happy]

Yeah, that would be hellish! :evil

[Loop]

Other way... do damage before you attack? :head:

[bee_happy]

It would still be hellish! :evil

[neo-geo]

Strange hellish people.....

[dark fairy]

hey dont worry i still like pokemon!! and i agree with you!!
i bought the new pokemon sapphire and i was dissapointed with the fact you couldnt visit joto and kanto!! but its still a decent game!!

http://www.matthewbae.com/pokemonzone/latios.gif

[bee_happy]

I have that aswell. Have u found Latias yet. I've seen it but cant catch it! :(

[Loop]

The blue one is Latios. I have him, but I need some secret boat ticket to get Latias.

I need a GBA Action Replay.

[bee_happy]

Yeah i know! But on Sapphire, u catch Latias (the red 1) first.
A boat ticket? Is that the ticket u need to get to the battle tower?

[Sman25000]

How many gym leaders are there?

[bee_happy]

There's 8!
Roxanne - rock/stone badge
Brawly - fighting/knuckle badge
Wattson - electric/dynamo badge
Flannery - fire/heat badge
Norman - normal/balance badge
Winona - flying/feather badge
Tate & Liza - psychic/mind badge
Wallace - water/rain badge

[Sman25000]

There's 8!
Roxanne - rock/stone badge
Brawly - fighting/knuckle badge
Wattson - electric/dynamo badge
Flannery - fire/heat badge
Norman - normal/balance badge
Winona - flying/feather badge
Tate & Liza - psychic/mind badge
Wallace - water/rain badge

explain to me what the difference between rock and stone etc are.

Is it like the name of the badge, versus the type?

[bee_happy]

Name-type/badge

[Loop]

explain to me what the difference between rock and stone etc are.

It's not Rock and Stone, it's Rock and Ground.
Ground is immune to Electric, Rock isn't.
Rock is weak against Steel.
I think only Ground is weak against Ice, not sure.

[Sman25000]

what i meant was the difference between the rock and stone in what she said, and that was the names of the badges, otherwise i already knew that stuff. Thanks anyway loop :happysad:

[bee_happy]

It's not Rock and Stone, it's Rock and Ground.
Ground is immune to Electric, Rock isn't.
Rock is weak against Steel.
I think only Ground is weak against Ice, not sure.

Loop. I think you'll find rock is immune to electric and ground ain't.

[Sman25000]

I thought it was the other way around?

[bee_happy]

i don't think so. I think ground can b hit by electrical attacks.

[Sman25000]

no, i remember this. Most rock creatures are ground also, and that may be why your getting it confused. I remember because i was in a battle with zapdos versus dugtrio, and neither could hit each other because zapdos couldn't hit the ground guy dugtrio, and then ground can't hit flying.

[bee_happy]

Oh yeah...but elecricity still can't hit rock. Lets just settle with that neither can be hit with electricity. Agreed?

[Night_Cralwer]

...Pokemon Slauter...

Be Mario and all of the other relics in a big witch hunt with a big machitte (knife) and hunt down and kill them 'all for taking their spot light

i can c a classic being born

[Loop]

In the Pokémon world, electricity can hit rock. Question answered.

As for NC's suggestion, not only could Mewtwo beat their asses down, but "relics"?

[Sman25000]

...Pokemon Slauter...

Be Mario and all of the other relics in a big witch hunt with a big machitte (knife) and hunt down and kill them 'all for taking their spot light

i can c a classic being born

Thats a buyer for pokemon haters :thumb: :rolleyes:

[Night_Cralwer]

"relics"?

u know, old thing and ppl find underground i.e old artifacts n'stuff

spelling is a bit off though

[Loop]

No, I know what Relics are, just an unexpected choice of words.

[Night_Cralwer]

wat would u had preferred

[Loop]

I'm not saying it was a bad choice of words.

[bee_happy]

Ain't this thread supposed to be about Pokemon and not about relics!

[Loop]

It was, and still is. :wtf:
So, is Mewtwo a decent character in SSB:M? That's the only reason I have for getting a GameCube as of this moment.

[Sman25000]

i'd say hes one of the top five. Hes really good if you know how to use him. and hes REALLY good to be annoying with. You can shoot energy balls with him, you can flip projectiles around to hit the other guys, you can flip people in midair. You can disable people, leaving them harmless for a second. hes all around a very good character.

[QuizMaster]

Aye, and I use him for the warping around and disappearing. A great tactic in SSBM? Annoying your opponent.

[Sman25000]

ah! i hate that.

Another good one is if they're falling towards you, use the up+a smash attack being held. It'll knock them around in the air.

One good thing about mewtwo is that he doesn't fall as fast as some characters.

[Loop]

So, since I'll probably get a GC and this game, he's worth unlocking?

Wooh. :cool:

[cyberpav]

no.Get an action replay and it will save you lots of money that will be spent on coffie.i learnt the hard way-don't suffer like i did!!

[Loop]

What? Cheat to unlock Mewtwo?! Never, he deserves better.
And what's so bad about playing, what is it, 100 games?

[Sman25000]

no. 20 hours of continuous fighting, but you can cheat by setting it on unlimited timing, and leaving it on overnight with as many controllers as you can going. Thats the easy way.

[QuizMaster]

Cheating? Doing it an easy way?

You're all insane!

[cyberpav]

i was up all night uloking mewtwo only to purchase an action replay and find cheats for all players ect.And damn, i thought you would actually have to play
to make sure u played 4 ages.oh well,i f**ked!

[onimushu]

What i would want is Being able to have all 352 on one game, being able to use your pokemons attacks as if you were the pokemon itself. I like the idea of getting rid of all the lovey-dovey junk, and having an evil-looking choice as one of your choices as to what you want your char. to look like. I would also like to be able to call out any pokemon you have to walk next or behind you... like they have it on Yellow version, but not having Pikachu follow you. especially if your trying to go for the intimidating look, and Pikachu kinda F**ks it up...

[Loop]

Indeed. Walking around in the rain at night with a custom character and a Houndoom at yer side. Damn good fun, that'd be.

[QuizMaster]

What i would want is Being able to have all 352 on one game, being able to use your pokemons attacks as if you were the pokemon itself.

Like....what do you mean? Just change the verb tense?

[Sman25000]

I don't think that would be that great of a feature, but i do agree with having 352 in one game, trading is annoying.

[neo-geo]

Seeing as most other people don't have it, yes it is.

Another Idea, to have the option to change the looks of your character.

[Loop]

Yeah, I said that. :sarcastic
Trading isn't all that much of a bother for me, it just prompts me to buy a new cheat cart.

[QuizMaster]

Aye, isn't create-a-character often fun?

[Sman25000]

Yeah but you wouldn't be able to see yourself except for the back of the head, unless you got to do a personality thing and people treat you differently inside and out of battles.

[Loop]

No, a Create-a-Character mode for a 3rd-person game.

[neo-geo]

Like on thps3

[MHG]

When you fly or swim, instead of flying or swimming on a weird black squid type blob, you actually fly/swim on the pokemon that uses the fly/swim ability. Or am I just being silly (http://www.geocities.com/mmm_cress2/index.html)?

[onimushu]

What i mean to fight as if you were the pokemon is to be able to move your curser, and the pokemon itself would move to the side, instead of boucing up and down slightly, waiting for you to chose an attack...I'd like to still be on GBA, but it would be cool to be able to Hook it up to your computer, and battle other people that are hooked to a computer. and that way, we would all be able to find out who is the best(Me)...

[Sman25000]

I think you should be able to have certain button pushes to do certain things so that you could have more than four abilities.

[onimushu]

Yeah, I agree that they should be able to know more than four moves... and you should be able to press L or R and surf or fly, kind of like how they have it on Golden Sun and Golden Sun2.

[bee_happy]

I reackon u should be able to chose where u fly, like on ff, so that u find secret places!

[onimushu]

Yeah, or be able to fly to a setain spot on a route, or even to towns you havent been to yet, that would make things so much easier...

[bee_happy]

i dont think we should be able to fly to towns we haven't been to because that would ruin the whole point of the game.

[onimushu]

I dunno how it could ruin the piont of the game... wait, now i do... oh well, i only said that cause my friend told me to put it on, and it sounded like a good idea at the time...

[bee_happy]

okay...
i think though that after uv bin everywhere and fought everyone once u should be able to control where u fly. Also wouldn't it be cool if some pkmn could only be caught whilst flying. Like on Ruby/Sapphire when ur under the sea.

[onimushu]

That would be cool, but what if you wanted to fly somewhere, but didnt want to run into wild pokemon? I know you could just use a repel, but...well, you get the idea. Plus it would be better if you could jump. I mean, what kind of kid cant even jump???

[neo-geo]

A stupid one

[onimushu]

Well, youve got that right. If you could create a charecter, then mine would be able to jump.

[Sman25000]

Mine would be able to start out with a bicycle and he could do a jump on it. :rolleyes:

[Loop]

Sman, the Acro bike does that.

BTW, to counter the "knowing more than 4 moves" thing... where would the strategy lie then? Half the fun is picking great movesets to down enemy Pokémon no matter their type.

[neo-geo]

true, but there should be atleast 6 moves

[Loop]

Again, would greatly dimish the entertaining strategy aspect.

[neo-geo]

Oh, come off it.

And what about my new sig? Sorry if I offendid you with the last one.

[onimushu]

yeah, and sorry Lord Lupus, but i would have to agree with Neo-geo, at least 6 moves would be nice... even you have to admit to that...

[Takaru]

Donald you loser -_-;

Keep the four moves... it'd be much more fun. But the jumping thing is a good idea. You should also be able to cut down ALL trees so that you can create new paths to different areas. There should also be the copying pokemon through your PC like in Silver and Gold. Or the glitch from Red and Blue where you can get a bunch of one item (ie Rare Candies). Things like that would make me happy. Oh! The 3d idea is a really good one too. Especially for Gamecube. *dreamy eyes* I can see it nowww.... :D

[onimushu]

Hey, Donald, I wont make fun of you cause i dont like to make fun of people... and yeah, get better graphics, and I dont really like the sky view anymore... and i guess that they dont have to change the fact that they could only have 4 moves, since about half of the people want to change it, and the other half dont, so whatever......

[Sman25000]

The problem is, that some of the moves aren't strategic, like if you used a growl attack, which is supposed to lower their offense, but if you wanted it to be effective, you'd have to use it 5 or 6 times, by that time, you'd be dead

[neo-geo]

too true.

oh, and seeing as nintendo are going to release a new platform soon, I dont think it will be for the 'cube

[onimushu]

Yeah, as much as i hate them, they need some weak moves in there. the attacks i hate the most are move that raise evasion, but it seems pointless if you use it, but your attacks always miss when your opponent uses it... Its the same with most pokemon. If you battle against a powerful pokemon, then get one, its always weak and pathetic, even if they are at the same level. I hate that.

[Sman25000]

Its cuz they do it strategically.

[dark fairy]

The blue one is Latios. I have him, but I need some secret boat ticket to get Latias.

I need a GBA Action Replay.


action replay dosn't have pokemon sapphire/ruby cheats you need to get the new xploader but its only for gba sp u can get secret characters though so its worth while! :D

[onimushu]

You can really get Dyoxsus and Cherijo with that thing? do you think its out over here in California, cause i havent seen anything like that in stores yet...

[bee_happy]

dunno, bt i know that it aint here in England!!

[neo-geo]

Nor is it in holland.

I had a great idea, but I can't remember it. Annoyance.

[bee_happy]

What a great idea :rolleyes:

Anyways....

If there was going to be a new type of pokemon, what type would people want??

[neo-geo]

how about a "light" type, you know, to even out the dark typs.

[bee_happy]

thats what i was thinking. Light pokemon would be effective against Dark and Dragons maybe?

[Sman25000]

how about time pokemon?

It could change time, so like they other guy gets damage because hes aged a lot.

[MHG]

how about time pokemon?

It could change time, so like they other guy gets damage because hes aged a lot.
Good idea. You can use time to grow berries a lot faster, run faster or retry a match against a difficult opponant.

action replay dosn't have pokemon sapphire/ruby cheats you need to get the new xploader but its only for gba sp u can get secret characters though so its worth while! :D
You can! I downloaded them straight to my cart from the Internet. Connecting the Action Replay to the internet is pure genius!

Edit: Double-posting is a no-no.

[onimushu]

Well, a time pokemon would be hard to do. Cause if you make it not powerful enough (like, ya know, if it controls time, it should be realy powerful...), then poeple would hate the fact that they have as time pokemon and it sucks, but if you make it powerful, then it makes the game to easy. Quite the deliema.

[bee_happy]

indeed. I still think a light/angel pokemon would be good.

[onimushu]

Yeah, I wouldnt mind having a light or angel on... they do have a few that look like an angel type...

[bee_happy]

like........who?

[Winboy]

intersting...(i still like pokemon..kinda)

a 3d one for gamecube would be GREAT i would get it :-)

H@ll i thoses ideas are great

[Loop]

Light to oppose Darkness, eh? Neither works on either. Good idea, like Ghost and Normal.

[neo-geo]

more like ghost on psychic.

Anyhoo, how about a laser type. they'd have to be really rare, but o, so cool!

And what I find rather disturbing is that the 'dex says:
Alakazam is a fox-pokemon (example), but there are NO normal animals in the games.

[bee_happy]

that's strange. It doesnt come up in my dex like that.......

yeah, a laser pkmn would be cool!! :cool: But it would have to be one of those that take ages to lvl up because it is so strong!

[MHG]

more like ghost on psychic.

Anyhoo, how about a laser type. they'd have to be really rare, but o, so cool!

When in doubt, have lasers. I totally agree about having more ghosts but the new game really lacks decent fire/electric alternative pokemon. Blaziken rules but there needs to be more fire types (even Groudon isn't a fire type!). As for electric types, shame Mareep wasn't in the game (sheep rule!) I think we all have level 100 Pikachu's now Nintendo...

No...?

[bee_happy]

pmike has a very good point. More fire and electric pkmn are needed.

[onimushu]

Yeah, and a cvooler looking electricm type would be great. Man, If the peoplew who make the pokemon games could read this forum, that would be one hell of a game!

[Loop]

Light to Darkness as Ghost is to Psychic?! Totally unfair!
Light is ALWAYS prevalent in EVERYTHING! I DEMAND DARKNESS HAVE AN EQUAL FOOTING!

[onimushu]

Yeah, why does light always have to win? Why cant darkness win some of 'em?

[Sman25000]

I think there should also be like a really annoying kind of pokemon. Like if any of you have played magic, you know how annoying the island cards can get, they should have special abilities and do damage over time, and not just powerful blows.

[QuizMaster]

Yeah, why does light always have to win? Why cant darkness win some of 'em?

Simple. Darkness is nothing but the absense of light. Light penetrates the darkness. Once light comes, there is no more darkness. You can't really create darkness, since darkness is nothing.

I concur with Sman. The islands are what I revolve around.

[Loop]

Re: Darkness:

Darkness is faster than light. When light gets there darkness has been there for ages.

Re: Island Pokémon:
Anything with Bind, Toxic, Leech Seed, Recover, Perish Song, Spite, Hypnosis, Dream Eater, and Thunder Wave are all extremely annoying.

[bee_happy]

ur telling me!!

i think theyre shud definatly b more types!

[onimushu]

I hate things that paralize my pokemon. But what i hate the most, my most hated move are moves like Double Team. I HATE ity when my attacks miss. And yeah, I know what you mean about those annoying Island cards (No offence to anyone who likes to use a blue deck)

[Spiras Angel]

anuva annoying thing is wen they have used sand-attack (or something similar) and then use double team. they are impossible to hit then!!

[onimushu]

yeah, like i mentioned before, I HATE it! especially when me team is nearly all-powerful I makes it all pointless when my attacks miss. (My team consists of: Blaziken, Salamence, Swampert, Medagross, Aggron, and Shedinja, all at level 100)

[Spiras Angel]

well, ud kik my butt! i restarted and have:
Nincada(12) Poochyena (12) Wingull (12) Slakoth (12) Ralts (12) Mudkip (13)

how com u dont have no rayquaza?
and does any one else think that the regi's are rubbish?

[onimushu]

Well, Raquaza is a powerful pokemon, and its that reason i dont want to use him. Cause everyone will uise him, and If i did, then id just be following the croud, and i kinda wanted to create my own team. thats why i dont have a Groundon with me... Plus its understandable that i would beat you, I've been playing it for about 200 hours...

[Spiras Angel]

lol! :lol:

Yes i see your point, but just because you have the same pkmn as someone, doesnt mean that you are following the croud, because your pkmn will have completely different moves to everyone else.
As for Groundon, i cant get him (i got sapphire) but i can get (wats its name.......) but it aint that strong. and as for the regi's, theyre cr@p!!

[onimushu]

You have a point for the Regi's. The only reason I even went after them and caught them was to fill my pokedex...(which is at 200, i might add)

[Spiras Angel]

i only cought them cus i wanted to c wot they were like......but they are seriously cr@p in battle. Does any1 wanna try and prove me otherwise??

[Loop]

I couldn't be bothered raising the Regis. Hell, I can't be bothered to raise any of them until Coliseum comes out.

[onimushu]

I couldn't be bothered raising the Regis. Hell, I can't be bothered to raise any of them until Coliseum comes out.
This colliseum, whats it gonna be like? and what systemis it for?

[MHG]

I couldn't be bothered raising the Regis. Hell, I can't be bothered to raise any of them until Coliseum comes out.
Don't bother.

The Regis learn really lame moves. :mad:

The metal one seemed the most promising but when I caught it, I discovered it didn't even know any decent metal moves. It doesn't know ANY decent moves. make sure you've got loads of decent TMs cos you're going to need them... :(

[Spiras Angel]

lol, i agree, i tought my registeel metal claw.

[Loop]

Coliseum is basically Pokémon Stadium R/S for the GameCube.

As for Metal Claw, it's just a shame that sucks too. Steel wing is so much better, but of course, Registeel doesn't have wings.

[Spiras Angel]

indeed! heres a question, are there any decent steel tms?

[MHG]

As for Metal Claw, it's just a shame that sucks too. Steel wing is so much better, but of course, Registeel doesn't have wings.
Thanks for agreeing everyone! What metal moves would you invent which'll kick ass?

[Spiras Angel]

hmmm, probably something like steel glare. It would damage the enemy and paralyze them....the steel version of Arbok's glare!

[onimushu]

Theres Meteor Smash (100Atack, 85 Accuracy), which is the strongest Steel-type move. But I hate the fact that they have only four Steel-type moves. Cause Steel is my favorite type. Well, i like Steel, Ground and Fire. But there arent verey many Steel type moves. I'd wish they would make more...

[MHG]

Theres Meteor Smash (100Atack, 85 Accuracy), which is the strongest Steel-type move. But I hate the fact that they have only four Steel-type moves. Cause Steel is my favorite type. Well, i like Steel, Ground and Fire. But there arent verey many Steel type moves. I'd wish they would make more...
With over three hundred pokemon out there now, you'd think they'd invent more then four steel moves! What was even the point of inventing a steel type?

Look at Magnemite, I thought i'd be cool coz it's electric and steel but what steel moves does it know? Metal sound. And that's just so weak! I hope Nintendo are reading this. With some sort of a translation gizmo...

[Loop]

Indeed - I'd just like a decent Steel move for Aggron. The best I can get is Steel Claw (power 35, Accuracy 95). sure, Iron Tail is stronger but it only hits 3/4 of the time. not enough for me.

Oh, I restarted my game.

[MHG]

I restarted my game.
The problem with restarting the game is that I can't transfer all the berries that took me forever to grow. If only there was some sort of device which could let you transfer data in bulk.

[neo-geo]

Now who would waste their time growing berries?

As for steel moves, how about a "liquid steel" move that could slow an enemy down OR do a one hit KO. suffocation, you see.

[Loop]

Berries are useful as hold items for recovering PP.

[MHG]

How about "Steel Blaze!" I'm not sure what it would do but it's still a cool name! Like flamethrower but with STEEL!

Steel Symphony ,
Liquidizer ["Melts" your enemy so you can steal their HP],
Steel Colomns [Absorbs fire attacks and turns them against the enemy],
Amplifier ,
[B]Steel Waves [waves of razor sharp steel floods into your enemy],
Chain Whip [Like wrap but with more damage],
Crusher [Crush your enemy with Jaws like steel teeth],
and finally...
Metal Storm!!! [Play music that ROCKS to cause a Metal Storm to increase all steel attacks. Like Sandstorm but with bullet like rain drops]

And all this came from the top of my head. Anyone else got any good move names? I'm still really fond of [I]STEEL BLAZE!!!

ps: Merry Christmas Everyone!
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[Sman25000]

What i've noticed with pokemon, is that they costume other moves with other names

Take tackle for example. They have tons of other names for it and they're all the same move. They should have more status ailments and do what nintendo used to be known for, creativity.

[Spiras Angel]

Nice ones pmike :thumb: Im all for Steel Blaze too!

[MHG]

Ta.

But what would Steel Blaze actually do? It's a cool name but it needs a really, really cool move. Something like firing thousands of Ninja Stars out of the pokemon's mouth. The Metaliic Flamethower as it were. But a lot cooller then that.

[Spiras Angel]

hmmm.......
maybe it sends a blast of molten metal at the opponent!

[MHG]

Like a giant meteorite of flaming steel! Oooh! Sounds too exciting! Pants filling excitment! Does anyone have anything better then that for STEEL BLAST?

[Sman25000]

if there was a fire and steel type pokemon he should be able to do a melted metal attack or something like taht

[Loop]

Fire and Steel... I can't think of any weaknesses for that. That'd kick ass.

And what about Megaton? Two-turn attack; first turn stores energy, or meditates or something, and in the second a huvge mass of steel is smashed into the enemy.

Otherwise I think the Steel market was quite well covered before.

[Spiras Angel]

lol.
Anyways....

Is it just me or are the pokemon games for the gameboy getting easier.

[Loop]

Maybe you're just getting better.

I know one thing- they're getting longer. I completed Red in about eight hours, now I'm 30hrs into Ruby and not even at the Elite 4.
This is a good thing, by the way.

[MHG]

When you beat the Elite Four, there's not much to do afterwards. There aren't secret lands you can visit like in Silver/Gold. All you can do is try and catch Latios/Latias, build your crew's stats and grow berries. Quite boring.

I found Mirage Island though. There's a really rare berry on that island that takes fours days to grow. It took me ages but I have over 160 of them now.

[THE_NEW SMAN]

and.... what might that berry do?

[Spiras Angel]

yeah, and where is mysery island??

And loop, i dont think thats true, because i'm replaying blue now (graphics real bad) and i still find it hard!

[Sman25000]

I don't particularly like how you always have to train. I'd rather just travel rather than sitting there in the grass running back and forth for an hour.

[Spiras Angel]

yeah...i totally agree with u sman, but then, how would your pkmn get stronger?

[Loop]

And loop, i dont think thats true, because i'm replaying blue now (graphics real bad) and i still find it hard!

You don't think what's true? That I beat Red in 8hrs?
I started playing it the minute I came home from school, about 3:30. Finished at about 12.

[Sman25000]

No, she thinks that she isn't getting better, you told her she might be getting better.

Anyways spira, they could make it so your creatures level up faster so that you don't have to train for hours on end.

[MHG]

You get a Liechi Berry in Mirage Island. It boosts attack power in battle and if you use the berry mixer, it boasts your Pokemon's coollness by loads of points.

There should be other berries that boast defence or speed.

[Spiras Angel]

Sman, its Angel thanx ;)

Anywho.....i dunno bout what u said pmike, i think there should be an Ultimate berry. It would boost all of your stats and put u up a lvl! That would b a cool berry! :cool:

[Sman25000]

"oh, try the rare candies they're delicious" - :sarcastic

[Spiras Angel]

..................................i know about the rare candies, but they only level u up (and boost stats but not by much) this berry would super boost your stats and lvl u up, bu 2 lvls!

[Sman25000]

Yeah, if you use rare candies your pokemon eventually ending up sucking, but yeah, that'd be cool spi.....angel. :thumb:

[Spiras Angel]

Thankyou!! ;)

Anywho....why can pkmn only evolve 2 times. Blub/Ivy/Ven as an example. Is 4 evolutions not allowed??

[Sman25000]

making more evolutions would probably be hard. They have to create something that looks pretty much the same 3 times, except beastier. i think that 3 is enough.

[Spiras Angel]

I see your point but one more wouldnt hurt right??
Maybe make Dragonite grow an extra pair of wings and be more fiersome looking.........

[Sman25000]

I think dragonite looks too nice. They should make him less nice and make him more edgy and pointier wings, and darken the color, that'd make him look more powerful.

[Spiras Angel]

Yeah, and that can be his final (forth) evolution stage!!! and maybe, instead of being a dragon, he could change into a god type....that would be cool!

[MHG]

They should make a bug/dragon type. Think about it, a giant millipede who can use flamethrower as well as some well needed powerful bug moves.

[Spiras Angel]

lol yeah, but bugs aint that powerful really are they....

[Sman25000]

they should have a giant and a mini type giants would be more strong, but less accurate

and then the mini people could have evasion and be tricky. :upto:

[QuizMaster]

yeah...i totally agree with u sman, but then, how would your pkmn get stronger?

Simple, you could have more mandatory battles with trainers and such.

[Sman25000]

there should either be more trainers, or you could battle unlimited amount of times.

[Loop]

You can in R/S. Certain trainers (49, I believe) will request rematches.

Angel, I was being sarcastic earlier.

Also, I believe someone did some massive study on Rare Candies, and although I can't remember, if the RC'd Pokés were weaker, it's because when you battle, the Poké gets, say, hidden points for battling. For example, if you battled 10 Electrodes, the next level up, you'd have a bigger boost in Speed.

But apparently, you can use the Box Trick and the RC'd Poké will toughen up even more and be the erquiv. of a normally-trained Poké.
(If you didn't know, the Box Trick is where you battle many many times, then deposit and withdraw the Pokémon. The stats are recalculated to include the hidden points and you can get stat boosts even if it's Lv100.)

[MHG]

I think pokemon needs to stop hiding their hidden stats. You should be able to unlock a hidden window or something that shows these stats.

[Spiras Angel]

yeah, by defeating so many trainers or something.

[Sman25000]

or just not have a hidden window. :sarcastic You should be able to view your pokemon's stats without having to unlock something.

[Loop]

No, their SECRET Stats.
What would it show? HP bars, but showing their experience in each stat? I sday it'd work, but who barring the fanatics would actually bother using it?

[Spiras Angel]

i wouldnt bother using....secret stats are supposed to b secret

[MHG]

Yeah, but if you want to be a kick ass pokemon master, you have to know the stats. Know what type of approch works best on the pokemon.

ps: I have way too much spare time...

[Spiras Angel]

ps: I have way too much spare time...

this is true....;)

But u can b a kick ass poke trainer wivout knowing the stats!

[MHG]

But it would be nice to know the stats though.

I also think that you should be able to train the actual charater you play so he/she can learn HM. I'm sick of getting crappy pokemon out everytime I need to go in a cave or cut down a stupid little tree.

Also, MAKE THE HMs DELETABLE! Don't got to the move deleter, if your pokemon wants to learn a new move, just make this one deleteable! I think this should happen when you finally learn FLY or have infinate escape rope so that you can get out of tough scrapes without getting stuck.

Someone MUST agree with me!

[QuizMaster]

I disagree. It's your fault for screwing up. Looks like you'll have to catch another one.

[Spiras Angel]

nah i agree with pmike. Im also p****d off wid cr@ppy pm moves. Take Rock Smash for example, and flash, they are truly rubbish moves.

[MHG]

nah i agree with pmike. Im also p****d off wid cr@ppy pm moves. Take Rock Smash for example, and flash, they are truly rubbish moves.
I know! And Rock Smash was a TM in the last game. Why did they change it? I wouldn't mind if it was a powerful move but it's so weak in battle.

At least have it so you can carry items that you can use to delete HM moves. So when it comes to levelling up, they say, "Sorry, you can't delete a HM move. Would you like to use one of your HM Deleters to make your pokeon forget this move?" I think that's the most likely thing Nintendo will do then just make HM moves deletable.

[Spiras Angel]

Ay, that would be a great help. Sometimes i teach hm moves to my main pkmn and not some weak thing in my pc, and its really annoying wen it says, this move connot b deleted.
Either what u said pmike, or you can meet the move deleter earlier in the game!

[Loop]

Get a Gyarados. It can learn Surf, Strength, Dive, Waterfall and Rock Smash.
Strength, Surf, Flash and Fly are useful moves anyway.

[onimushu]

Thats one of the things I hate about these games. Its that if you get an HM that you NEED to teach a pokemon, but its SOOO weak. I hate that just as much as moves that miss...

[Spiras Angel]

lol yeah. Feraligatr can also learn loads hms.
Cut, Strength, surf, waterfall.

[onimushu]

Plus Feraligater was always good to me. Plus he just looks promising. He's kinda the Charizard, for the "old" new games (Gold, Silver, Crystal), except in a water pokemon...

[Spiras Angel]

yeah. Its ashame that we cant get charizard in G,S,C,Sap,Rub, dont ya think?

[onimushu]

Plus, Feraligater was one of the only water pokemon that actually LOOKED stronge. these are like Garados, Swampert, maybe Sharpedo.... any more you can think of?

[onimushu]

yeah. Its ashame that we cant get charizard in G,S,C,Sap,Rub, dont ya think?
Yeah, that sucks alot...

[MHG]

In the next game, there should be some sort of a manual saying which pokemon can breed together and which moves can be inherited. I've tried to breed a pokemon so it can learn Magic Leaf but it just doesn't happen.

[Loop]

Why? The entire point of breeding is you have to work at it.
Plus, there's a chance that particular Pokémon CAN'T learn Magic Leaf. What's the Pokémon?

Oh, and you can get Charizard in G/S/C, trade it from Red or Blue and Breed it. It'll most likely be male, like most starters, so you'll have to use a Ditto.

[MHG]

Oh, and you can get Charizard in G/S/C, trade it from Red or Blue and Breed it. It'll most likely be male, like most starters, so you'll have to use a Ditto.
You can get a female Charmander from Pokémon Stadium if you beat the elite four. You can also get Squirtle and Bulbasaur but this is quite an old game now...

[Spiras Angel]

yes loop, but m saying that its ashame that u cant do it without trading. Even tho i didnt actually say that.

[Loop]

Yes, well...
When Pokémon Colusseum comes out, they'll all be available.

No doubt except Mew, Celebi, Deoxys and Jirachi, though.

[onimushu]

Yeah, they probably wont be included. But there always have to be someone you gotta cheat to get, its like a tradition with the pokemon games...

[Spiras Angel]

lol yeah.
Problem if u dont have the console for Pokemon Colliseum eh loop. it'd b on the gamcube right?

[neo-geo]

I remember in pokemon RED you could do a couple of things to get a "Msigno" or something of the kind and it was actually a flaw in the game. Those bugs could upset gameplay rather nastily.

[Spiras Angel]

yeah, the missingno cheat.
really mucked up me game that did.

[Sman25000]

Yeah, but you could also get level 100 pokemon right off the bat... or get above level 100 as a matter of fact.

[Spiras Angel]

yeah, but the missingno's aint v strong. And the pkmn u find are all mirrored (wrong way round) and thats too annoying fer me.

[Loop]

Problem if u dont have the console for Pokemon Colliseum eh loop. it'd b on the gamcube right?

I have a GameCube. :thumb:

Anyway, about Missingno. I could get Charizards at level 200-odd. And Snorlax.
Found Mew in my Hall of Fame after that, as well.

[Giants8189]

i think pokemon should have stopped while they were ahead. they kept adding all these weird ones and it started to suck. When yellow, red, and blue versions were out for gameboy those were the best.

[MHG]

They need to make another game like Yellow. Pokemon Yellow was the biggest selling game over here. If the other games had Pokemon follow you like they did in Yellow, I think everyone would buy it.

Also if all the Pokemon had some sort of animation. You know, make thier arms move, their legs eyes, that sort of thing. Or am I just being silly? :sarcastic

[Giants8189]

you got a good point but i think pokemon has just gone out of style for now. i stopped liking them a few years ago. i made quite a lot of money on all the cards i sold though.

[MHG]

I think, if they are going to revive the craze, they are going to have to work hard to make it look and feel like a classic game again.

And ditch the TV programme.

[Sman25000]

I don't think that just having pokemon follow you would do the trick pmike. although i do think that people will start to like it again soon.

[MHG]

I don't think that just having pokemon follow you would do the trick pmike. although i do think that people will start to like it again soon.
Well it's a step in the right direction.

And while I'm on the subject of steps, make the main character more flexable! Don't just move N E S W! Move in diagonals as well! Come on, this game was made years after Zelda and that managed to make you move in all directions.

Move left two spaces, move up five spaces, move left another five spaces... The controls are abysmal! Gimme Golden Sun anyday.

[Spiras Angel]

lol, yeah, good point pmike. that would be cool.

[domdomthegreat]

this is a really old thread man. whoa old indeed. i think that if u could actually see them fly to wherever there going 4 a short while would be good. and if u could fly to a route anywhere it would be so much easier to catch pokemon.

[Sman25000]

That'd probably take forever to program all the different possibilities. I don't think that'd help, it'd be cool to see like ONE time but then it would wear out, plus i think its annoying to have the little snipits like that where they're on the train. It takes forever.

[Spiras Angel]

yeah, or in the new ones when u use a hm out of battle and u get a pic of the pkmn using it, that gets annoying.
I think we should b able to fly everywhere and anywhere!

[onimushu]

You mean like in Pokemon Crystal? Yeah. If they could combine pokemon Crystal with Yellow, and have Ruby/Sappire's graphics...or better yet, even better graphics. I mean, its graphics are good, but every game could use better graphics. better graphics never hurt...

[Sman25000]

I don't think the graphics will get much better until the next nintendo handheld system will come out. gameboy doesn't have that much power.

[MHG]

That'd probably take forever to program all the different possibilities.
Breath of Fire II, you could fly anywhere in the game world and the GBA made that work fine! And how old is that game?

I guess the current programming is a lot simpler and cheaper to make.

[Loop]

I don't think the graphics will get much better until the next nintendo handheld system will come out. gameboy doesn't have that much power.

GBA is a 32-bit console.

[Sman25000]

oh... well, even with a game as large as pokemon, i still don't think they could do it.

(this has nothing to do with pokemon, but they should have 64 bit on their next one ;))

[onimushu]

Doesnt a GBA/GBA SP has the same Graphics as a Super Nes?

[QuizMaster]

Yes. And that is why you can find a lot of SNES' hits on their.

[MHG]

Yes. And that is why you can find a lot of SNES' hits on their.
It's not as powerful as the SNES. Before you start hitting me with fish, let me just say that Yoshi's Island suffered terrible slow down.

I feel that Pokemon's running so slow sometimes that it might crash any minute. Anyway, did anyone hear about the bug in the Pokemon games? After a year, the clock goes a bit mad. I read it on the CVG wesite.

[Loop]

CVG sucks ass. I've had no problems with any Pokémon games, seeing as how the clock stops at 255 hours.

[onimushu]

Yeah, i noticed it stopps there as well, sucks for me, cause ive been playing mine for about 203 hours...

[Loop]

Does it really matter, though?

[QuizMaster]

It's not as powerful as the SNES. Before you start hitting me with fish, let me just say that Yoshi's Island suffered terrible slow down.

I feel that Pokemon's running so slow sometimes that it might crash any minute. Anyway, did anyone hear about the bug in the Pokemon games? After a year, the clock goes a bit mad. I read it on the CVG wesite.

Aye, but I didn't realise that Super Mario World did the same thing the first time I played it. Now-a-days..laggy!

Bug in the Pokémon games? That was a caterpie. Don't worry, I caught it.

[Loop]

You missed the Weedle, now it terrorises us all as Beedrill!

[onimushu]

And its all your fault...(J/K) lol

[Spiras Angel]

lol. yeah. I think Caterpie is better tho. It can learn Psychic as a beautifly!

[MHG]

How about this for a conterversial move. Get rid of the Psychic type in the next game and replace it with a Light/Angel type! I always felt that all the psychic pokemon were too powerful and too cool.

Make psychic abilities a forgotten art in the next game. It'll make the game A LOT more difficult and challenging.

[onimushu]

I would also like them to get rid of the pokemons personality. I think its pointless. all it does is alter their stats slightly... I think that they sould get rid of it, and use the memory for somethin else, maybe to imrpove on somethin, or add somethin new and cool.