ROBOT WARS why the Hell do people watch that S!@T

[L.G.]

ROBOT WARS is complete S!@T i just wanna know if anyone else thinks so or an i the only one!?

[L.G.]

ROBOT WARS is a bunch of poofs playing with pansy toys that look like something they made with help from there mummys.

The action if any is dull, play calling is over the top for example a toy turns left the guy will say "OH MY GOD DID YOU SEE THAT TURN BY turd on a stick THAT WAS BRUTAL, WHERE WILL THEY GO FROM HERE...............DID YOU SEE THE IT MONVED FORWARD GOODNESS ME" what sort of S#!T is that!!
And the people who control the toys are complete dickheads, but it is funny to see a 11 year old win over a 46 year old and to see the 46 year old guy cry. The type of battle (if thats what those poofs call it) modes are ...........well..............S#!T!

Who else shares my hate for ROBOT WARS!!???

[Loop]

:wtf:

You do realise that most, if not all, of the robots on Robot Wars could rip off your arm at 30 paces?

And do you realise the cost of many of these robots? Some cost thousands.

PS Razer; Look it up.

[Lee's Dad]

I must confess, I do share your dislike of RW, but for different reasons. More in a minute.......
The machines built are, generally, crap, using bits nicked from wheelchairs, with little real technical input from the 'designer'.
As a result, the 'battles' are very tame, in most cases involving little more than a bit of gentle bumping, which is about all these ****-weak piles of dung can muster.
Most of the axes used would have trouble piercing cardboard, let alone 2mm steel. Just what do the selection board intend allowing on television?? I'll tell you. They want pretty, fluffy machines, ones with a 'theme', whatever that may be, and the more stupid you can make it look, the better. It's for TV, see?

(Whispers quietly)
I built a fighting machine for RW. It was/still is dangerous, fast, agile, was all my own design, I had designed my own speed controller and circuit boards, had used no ready-assembled components, but it looked very boring.
My first attempt to enter involved an 'audition' as they called it, which involved a tech. guy looking over it to ensure it complied with the safety regulations - fail-safes fitted and legal weaponry - and that the build quality was up to standard. I then had to drive it around an obstacle course which involved tight turns, slalom, and funniest, smashing through a wall, dry-built from concrete blocks, three high. Real concrete, not breeze blocks as used in the program!
I was creased up watching some of the rubbish have a go at the wall, one in particular lumbered slowly up to the wall, gave it a light bump and stopped. It made it through to the show.
Mine hit the wall at about 15mph, smashed right through, continued on, I spun it around and hit the fallen blocks a second time - just to show it had real power. I didn't make it through to the show.

My second attempt for the show was more recently, and actually involved being pitted against a random rival in the arena for real, in front of an audience. The production team would eventually choose from this the ones for the televised show.
Anyhow, in the arena, I turned the machine to face my opponent and gave it the full 4 horse-power. My machine was fitted with fixed 20mm carbon steel spikes on the front, and one of these went straight through his armour and destroyed one of his batteries, which quickly caused him to loose power. I couldn't withdraw the ram, so we were stuck together - in fact it was the only occasion where Shunt and Refbot have been unable to separate two machines.
The team resorted to crowbars in the end, my opponent's shell was in shreds by this time from the bashing from the house robots, mine with just a couple of dents and scratched paintwork. My opponent was out of action and had to retire, while I waited for a chance for another go.
He got through, I didn't.

Balls to the Mentorn group and Robot Wars, I was under the impression they wanted mean machinery, but all they want is prettiness armoured with tin-foil.

I now wait for someone to start something simmilar, but for charity.
That would be fun. Meanwhile, my creation lurks, greased up, in the garden shed..........

[Loop]

Yo Andy, do us a favour and e-mail me some sort of instructions as to what I need to make a decent machine, eh? :upto:

[Lee's Dad]

Get youself a 40Mhz radio control unit, some powerful 24 volt motors, lead-acid batteries big enough to supply the anticipated load, devise a method of steering, i.e. tank style skid steering or swivelling wheels, devise a means of varying the speed, devise a weapon that actually works 100%, not prtends to, and choose/design appropriate armour. You have up to 100Kgs to play with.
Beware, if you come up with something good, you won't get on the show...............:(

[Loop]

Hey; Crap designs are my specialty! :upto:

BTW how much did yours cost to build, in parts etc?

[I-NemesiS01]

Originally posted by Loop
Hey; Crap designs are my specialty! :upto:



True,just look at his avatar for the proof.:cool:

[Loop]

Shut it Nem. :mad::flipa:

At least it's original.:rolleyes:

[chappy]

:wave:
loops avatar is about as original as his posts.
:jestera: :D

[Loop]

HEy, 'least I made it meself!:mad:

Anyway, Andy, how much did your robot cost to build? And have ye got any pictures?:upto:

[chappy]

Originally posted by Loop
HEy, 'least I made it meself!
Honestly loop, you cant tell.
:jestera: :jestera:

[mach_six]

i agree, its boring horse shi_t that is completely pointless and expensive. and the weapons that some of them have are so damn stupid! like a saw, how the hell is it gonna cut through metal??? P.S. thanks for the title loop.

[chappy]

IYHO that is...:jestera:

[Loop]

Originally posted by mach_six
...Like a saw, how the hell is it gonna cut through metal???

Well, what else would a diamond-tipped Circular saw be used on? Wood? :wtf:

[mach_six]

maybe if they were smart enough to use good saws like that! i saw one guy who had a chainsaw attached to his bot!

[Lee's Dad]

I feel I ought to come in in defence of the sport, but a part of me says no.
If anyone has a bit of tech. knowledge and a lust to injure and maim, then this sport is for you.
Pity it's being ruined by the televised show. As I mentioned above, Mentorn seem to choose stupid looking machines with ineffective weapons rather than tough ones that can go the distance.
One effort I remember had an axe powered by a bungee for f**k's sake!
To address the chainsaw issue, bear in mind the crap that gets through, many have plastic or glass-fibre 'armour', which a chainsaw will cut through as if it wasn't there.

Loop, I can't remember exactly what mine cost, as it was constructed over a period of time, with many parts scrounged or modified from secondhand bits. The motors (4) were heavily modified car dynamos. Changes were made to the timing, the coil configuration and the mountings, but basically they cost about a tenner. Much money saved there! The end result produced about 700 watts peak shaft output each, but took 24 volts at around 70 amps each to do this. Stall current was unmeasurable using my equipment, but during bench tests the supply leads would leap apart! Shifted like the proverbial off the shovel!
I used 13 (that's how many happened to fit on the heatsink) 65 amp MOSFET's, a couple of quid each, batteries 4, 14 AH plus 2 reserve at about 50 quid each, radio control unit which doesn't really count was about 250 quid, steel for chassis and armour - cheap as chips - probably less than 70 quid the lot.
All the circuits and boards for the control logic I designed and built myself, wheels? Can't remember. Loads of bits and pieces, failsafes, isolation switch, wire, fittings.

Estimated cost, anyhow, was about £700.
Many other machines cost so much because the team hire machine shops to construct chassis, drive, armour etc., rather than doing it themselves.

If this thread is still running by the time I find any pictures, I'll see what I can do - if you promise not to laugh........:upto:

It has killed another machine,also destroyed a kitchen table, attacked the settee during tests and left tyre burn marks on the kitchen floor when I activated it by mistake.

In fact, leaving wheelspin marks caused quite a stir when I took it down to the local primary school to show the kids and do a talk on it.
"Look, it even leaves marks when it pulls away!! Wow!"

[Loop]

Sounds good.

Though, me not doing Technology at school (I did Graphic Design, and failed miserably- Too much coursework), I haven't much of an ide what you just said, but it sounds good.

The only Robots I can think of who were any good is Mortis, who had Kevlar armour, and a modified japanese bshido blade as a weapon, and Razer. 'nuff said.

[speed demon]

I'm doing electronice at school but we haven't got to the "build your own fighting machine" part of the course yet. :upto: I also thought Mortis was good but it hardly ever won anything despite them paying £30,000 to build it.

[Paul]

Originally posted by Lee's Dad
I feel I ought to come in in defence of the sport, but a part of me says no.
If anyone has a bit of tech. knowledge and a lust to injure and maim, then this sport is for you.
Pity it's being ruined by the televised show. As I mentioned above, Mentorn seem to choose stupid looking machines with ineffective weapons rather than tough ones that can go the distance.
One effort I remember had an axe powered by a bungee for f**k's sake!
To address the chainsaw issue, bear in mind the crap that gets through, many have plastic or glass-fibre 'armour', which a chainsaw will cut through as if it wasn't there.

Loop, I can't remember exactly what mine cost, as it was constructed over a period of time, with many parts scrounged or modified from secondhand bits. The motors (4) were heavily modified car dynamos. Changes were made to the timing, the coil configuration and the mountings, but basically they cost about a tenner. Much money saved there! The end result produced about 700 watts peak shaft output each, but took 24 volts at around 70 amps each to do this. Stall current was unmeasurable using my equipment, but during bench tests the supply leads would leap apart! Shifted like the proverbial off the shovel!
I used 13 (that's how many happened to fit on the heatsink) 65 amp MOSFET's, a couple of quid each, batteries 4, 14 AH plus 2 reserve at about 50 quid each, radio control unit which doesn't really count was about 250 quid, steel for chassis and armour - cheap as chips - probably less than 70 quid the lot.
All the circuits and boards for the control logic I designed and built myself, wheels? Can't remember. Loads of bits and pieces, failsafes, isolation switch, wire, fittings.

Estimated cost, anyhow, was about £700.
Many other machines cost so much because the team hire machine shops to construct chassis, drive, armour etc., rather than doing it themselves.

If this thread is still running by the time I find any pictures, I'll see what I can do - if you promise not to laugh........:upto:

It has killed another machine,also destroyed a kitchen table, attacked the settee during tests and left tyre burn marks on the kitchen floor when I activated it by mistake.

In fact, leaving wheelspin marks caused quite a stir when I took it down to the local primary school to show the kids and do a talk on it.
"Look, it even leaves marks when it pulls away!! Wow!"

Do you know how lonely your wife must feel?:D

[Lee's Dad]

Extremely lonely, I've been sat here for ages. Have you any idea how long it took me to type that??? :D

[corny666]

hi, i'm corny. they realy are bollercs and i don't know why the **** the ever tryed to sell the game because i've read the news and reviews and they say it's almoast a completley **** as the tv show. if you have anything to add the send u a message of an e-mail @ corny666@hotmail.com, see ya!:mad: :mad:

[Losvaize]

Robots, I like em, Wars, only when they don't have an effect on me, or there on games, Robot Wars, em, I hate it, it's a pointless waste of money, materials and expertise, whats the point, what does Craig C. think is so good about it.

[chappy]

:jestera: :jestera: :jestera:

[DracoMaxwell]

Originally posted by corny666
i don't know why the **** the ever tryed to sell the game because i've read the news and reviews and they say it's almoast a completley **** as the tv show



It is I've played the demo and it sucked big time. I've never seen the show but my boyfriend likes it but the he's insane so I'm not to surprised.:D

[Lee's Dad]

Battling robots has a lot of entertainment potential for the competitors.
Liken it to a 3D game with the best graphics you'll ever get.......

Problem is with how the Mentorn group have developed and presented it. :( :mad:

[nic6965]

I occasionally watch Robot Wars, but good 'battles' are few and far between. I am very interested to hear what Lee's Dad has said. If only they chose more bots like that, then you would have great battles, massive carnage and real winners.:wtf:

[speed demon]

Originally posted by Lee's Dad
Battling robots has a lot of entertainment potential for the competitors.
Liken it to a 3D game with the best graphics you'll ever get.......
Problem is with how the Mentorn group have developed and presented it. :( :mad:

It's a shame really, being a fan I would have quite liked the game if they had bothered putting the time into it to make it good.

[XBD]

I downloaded some american Robot Wars type thing (no, not Battle Bots) from MusicCityMorpheus, and it ruled.

No dumb-ass robots. No dumb-ass competitors who think that by doing WWF style pre-match rants that they will be respected. No crap presenters and commentators. And no dancing penguins (quick reference to a UK advert from a few years back there).

Just some big robots, tearing s**t outta eachother. Hyrdolic fluid flowing from open wounds, chainsaws, buzzsaws, spikes, rams, flippers. You name it, they had it. Except it didn't suck like the UK wars.

Search for robots on MusicCity and see if anyone else has the vid for download, its about 70 megs and its in DivX.

[goodwin122]

robot wars is brillant what's wrong with it man:mad: :wave:

[XBD]

Its boring, cheesy, lame-ass, dull, idiotic crap.

Most people do not consider two baking tins on wheels bumping into eachother over and over again a 'war'.

And what the hell is with this Robot Wars Extreme Revisited?

Are the BBC2 dullards repeating the whole agonising series again?

Please.....please......noooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooo!

[Sprinkles]

OK, sometimes Robot Wars can be dull, especially when watching Napalm or something in the arena doing... well... nothing.

BUT all you have to do is watch Razer (my favourite) or Hypnodisc or Tornado or Chaos 2 (my least favourite) or any other of the better robots kicking the components out of it's opponent and you'll soon see why Robot Wars has such a huge following worldwide.

If you hate Robot Wars because you hate the way Craig Charles talks like a muppet during it, then it's your fault that you're missing out on one of the few decent shows on terrestrial TV.

[XBD]

You are missing nothing, and you will lead a much happier life if Robot Wars is not part of it.

[Dave2]

Robot Wars used to be OK, before they took the decent stuff out of it and made it all 'fights'. Then it turned in to a big, steamy, pile of poo.

[lee]

My favourite is Cassius from the second or third series (I think). Some robots have flippers that just gently tip the other robot over. Cassius on the other hand had a flipper that flipped them at least a foot into the air !:eek: He had a go at sir Killalot, he lifted him but didnt have the power to tip him over properly. I went up to see the auditions with my Dad and saw all the house robots. I even saw Refbot before the tele series :p
I also saw Chaos 2, Hypnodisc, Razer and a few others :)

[nic6965]

I remember Cassius - great bot. I think that was the first one to have the self righting thing going, and as you say Lee, it did it the best. It's a shame your Dad's robot didn't make it through, I would have enjoyed seeing you all on tv :king:

[L.G.]

Its Nice to see that what i had created so long ago is still kept alive by a common hate for stupid things (ROBOT WARS comes to mind)

:thumb:

[Scott]

I dislike Robot Wars, because in school my tech teacher used to show us videos often...against our will and it was always the same damn episode! :mad: i think i must've seen it about 30 + times, i probably know the words to the programme now, and also i may add Craig Charles deserves to be shot repeatedly in the head and then a gang of robots should be allowed to hack away at it! :king: ....thats how much i hate him! :D

[XBD]

Hack away with what? Hardly any of em have any formidable weapons.

[Sprinkles]

Ooooh, now you are insulting the craftsmanship of the Rose family (Hypnodisc creators) and Team Razer. Do NOT get the wrong side of a robot with a lethal spinning disc and a hydraulic crushing arm.

It's fun watching robots like Chaos 2 get wripped to shreds. (You can see my hatred for Chaos 2 seeping out here)

If you don't likeRobot Wars, then that's fine. If you do, that's fine too. I do. You lot obviously don't. If Craig Charles was, shall we say, incapacitated then a lot of you would watch Robot Wars I'll bet.

[stereopreachers]

I hate it. I don't understand how anyone can watch it. It's only people making stupis robots, and trying to beat up the other robots. ROBOT WARS IS A LOAD OF S**T

[Sprinkles]

But you're missing the point! It's the time and effort that has been put into creating these robots. If you spent absolutely ages lovingly creating a robot from scratch pouring hundreds of punds into it's creation, and then was forced to watch it being wripped to shreds, people watching you would find that hilarious. That's the appeal of Robot Wars. Or something.

Techno Games, on the other hand, is NOT fun! In fact, it's quite diabolical! (Except watching th ickle ones getting shot into the air!)

[XBD]

Okay. I been away for a few days cause I been in hospital (no, a robot did not put me there) and now I am back, and I am in a bad mood.

Some things concieved by human mind are bad. At the very base of their being, they are bad ideas. Cabbage flavoured ice-cream (believe me, it exists) is one of these ideas.

Robot Wars is another. Me and Sprinkles have had many, many arguments. Some about Console Vs. Console, but the one argument in which we could find no common ground was the WWF - Good or Crap argument.

Bear with me, i'm not going off topic here.

Now, I argued that WWF is great, and although fake, is highly entertaining. Sprinkles argued that the WWF was fillled with fat men in pants (granted, Trish Stratus fits this description) who hig eachother. He also said the pre-match rants and backstage encounters were cheesy.

"Its just sad" he opines.

However, fat, balding, middle-aged men spending 6-12months building a trash-can on wheels, and then 'fighting' it in an arena full of pre-pubescent kids is considered acceptable.

Listening to The Rock delivering a hillarious pre-match rant is sad, but listening to three overweight dullards 'rapping' a theme song to go with their 'robot' is considered acceptable.

A backstage fight between two rivals is sad, but listening to even more overweight men read some insults off a cue-card before a robot wars fight is, suprise, considered acceptable.

Now, I like televised violence as much as the next warm-blooded human, but Robot Wars is just...well, for want of a better word...bad.

Someone close this thread please. It is getting boring now. Much like robot wars. And its countless repeats. This is not considered acceptable.

And don't even mention Techno Games........... :mad:

[Sprinkles]

A very good argument there, XBD, Indeed, this topic should rot and die now.

It's not so much the stupid rapping and pre-fight banter that impresses me in Robot Wars, but the technical side of things. The guy I work with was going to, and still might, enter a robot into the wars, and he knows the guy who created Cassius in person. The technical side of Robot Wars is why I watch it.

The way they syke it up is annoying, but I can put up with that.

Craig Charles should be shot in the head.
The Plunderbird Boys should be hacked at with a large rusty chainsaw.

BUT the mechanics behind robots like Razer, Cassius and Hypnodisc should be praised for their accomplishments.

But hell, watching mindless violence on TV is FUN!

I think the argument is if you like Robot Wars then watch it. If you don't like it, don't watch it. It's fun for some people, which is why it's going into it's 5th series now.

Topic over as far as I can see! Let's let this one die!

[Lee's Dad]

It was the technical challenge that initially attracted me to Robot Wars - to see what could be done within the stipulated weight limits, with limited power. The early shows were better as they included an obstacle course which had to be cleared to qualify for the fight, but more recently the show has declined into a fight-only program. Not good.
I did enjoy the design and construction of my machine, especially when tests revealed it was tougher and faster than the theory suggested - pity about how the show has turned out though, no longer my cup of tea, so as stated previously, I now wait for the chance to fight again, for someone to come up with another event to enable all those non-corporate, boring looking machines out there to meet in anger............ :wave:

[Loop]

Or, in short, it was good when they aired decent robots. Now, we get the laughable Napalm.

Sure, the odd few like Razer and Hypnodisc get through, but I'm sure it's only for it's aesthetic value.

Bah, I want true robot violence. NOT Behemoth... "OOh, it's got a bucket shovel! Wow, watch it go!!!".
That's not what I want.

[speed demon]

Originally posted by Loop
Bah, I want true robot violence. NOT Behemoth... "OOh, it's got a bucket shovel! Wow, watch it go!!!".
That's not what I want.

Good, someone agrees with me about the c**pness of behemoth. :D

[Scott]

Just face it, the whole show is cack. :wtf:

[Sprinkles]

Originally posted by Sprinkles
Topic over as far as I can see! Let's let this one die!

See, the topic is idle for days, yet when I say let's let it die we get all these replies! :confused:

Oh well...

Behemoth is cack. Got flipped out of the arena by Thermadore 2! Ha! Got. Flipped. Out. By. Stupid. Lobster!

[Loop]

Originally posted by Sprinkles
See, the topic is idle for days, yet when I say let's let it die we get all these replies! :confused:

Of course. It's brought into the spotlight once more.:rolleyes:

BTW Thermidor, whilst looking cack, has a powerful flipper.

[XBD]

Please close this thread. Its getting beyond human endurance. :cry:

[Scott]

Originally posted by XBD
Please close this thread. Its getting beyond human endurance. :cry:

its also getting beyond sanity, when Loop feels a robot has a powerful flipper you know it has went too far. :rolleyes:

[Loop]

Blade- It has.

More power? OK, what about the fact that the House Robot, Shunt, can pull a Land Rover?:wtf:

Bah, no-one listens anymore...